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our tax rates were higher and the world did not implode. >> bill clinton cut spending. >> bill clinton did cut spending. >> that's correct. >> bill clinton was worried about deficits. be obama is increasing spending. he wants tax credits and spending subsidies. >> this is not what with tax cuts to higher people -- >> i will ask you about when he talks about energy he is not talking about fraking or shale. he is talking about more green energy spending. that's the difference between him and clinton. >> appreciate that. what i'm saying is if you don't like the same as it ever was, let's have a conversation about the bush years if we are going to talk about what worked and didn't work, bush's policies did not work. if you don't believe me, look at the 4.5 million jobs. >> what do you mean? >> 2008 until january 2009, we lost 4.5 million jobs. >> do you know over the same time span that bush created more jobs. the bush recovery created more jobs than the obama -- >> what was -- >> even though the recession was much milder,crea more jobs than obama did. using the obama metric. listen, i kno
our tax rates were higher and the world did not implode. >> bill clinton cut spending. >> bill clinton did cut spending. >> that's correct. >> bill clinton was worried about deficits. be obama is increasing spending. he wants tax credits and spending subsidies. >> this is not what with tax cuts to higher people -- >> i will ask you about when he talks about energy he is not talking about fraking or shale. he is talking about more green energy spending. that's...
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we knew what kinds of judge wear bill clinton wore. and we knew nothing about president obama and it's a national security issue. >> andrea do you think in the morning there is a conference call between abc, nbc and cbs and the "new york times" to decide what they are going to report on obama? >> don't put tblords my mouth. they know what the news of the day is and they choose to ignore it. the on time that they choose not to ignore it is when their access is threatened. you saw the media actually criticize president obama for not meeting with foreign leaders because they got snubbed for the ladies at the view. when they miss the access themselves that's when they complain. >> if you were ahead you wouldn't be having these arguments. >> i highly doubt it. martha: thanks so much, you guys. bill: bob is going to screen something like "coming up! ". the battle over obama-care could be headed back to the u.s. supreme court and what in the supreme court and what in the world would cause this. >> it seems like you guys -- al? sea turtle. wha
we knew what kinds of judge wear bill clinton wore. and we knew nothing about president obama and it's a national security issue. >> andrea do you think in the morning there is a conference call between abc, nbc and cbs and the "new york times" to decide what they are going to report on obama? >> don't put tblords my mouth. they know what the news of the day is and they choose to ignore it. the on time that they choose not to ignore it is when their access is threatened....
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he leaned on bill clinton to make the case this is no way he could have turned this around in four years. >> the economy is not fixed. i am telling you, nobody could have fixed this much damage in four years. the president's mock plan is better in the short run, the long run and a vision where all of us in this together is better than you be often your own. there is no on your own country in the world succeeding like those who have a good "we are all in this together" strategy. >>reporter: the order of questions is decided. the president gets the first. the problem with the argument that former president clinton made in 2009 president obama said if he didn't turn this around in 3 or 3 1/2 years it would be a one-term proposition. something governor romney will point out. >> the governor aides say -- the obama camp will focus on the economy, taxes and the deficit and will hit romney hard on the idea that bill clinton has been making and made at the democratic national convention in charlotte, north carolina, it does not add up when you look at the romney campaign. >> he will say he will c
he leaned on bill clinton to make the case this is no way he could have turned this around in four years. >> the economy is not fixed. i am telling you, nobody could have fixed this much damage in four years. the president's mock plan is better in the short run, the long run and a vision where all of us in this together is better than you be often your own. there is no on your own country in the world succeeding like those who have a good "we are all in this together" strategy....
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we read your progress in the 23 million jobs created under bill clinton when the average american family felt income go up by 7,500 instead of down 2,000 like george w. bush. that that's the standard he set. he's a failure, the family income has gone down $4,000 in 3 1/2 years under obama compared to $2,000 under george w. in eight years. >> because of that family income, that's not a made up number, that's a government number. i think both of these guys should be looking for permanent middle class tax cuts. permanent middle class tax cuts so that take-home pay will go up. i'll give you the last word. >> i found myself strangely agreeing with your plan to cut the middle class and take away the deductions and keep tax rates for people who make a lot of money like you and i fairly high. i think that makes abundant good sense. but we're forgetting one thing. the biggest challenge may be even more than anything is our debt and our deficit. and i think with governor romney and paul ryan figured out was they can't give $5 trillion worth of tax cuts and still eat into the deficit, which i think
we read your progress in the 23 million jobs created under bill clinton when the average american family felt income go up by 7,500 instead of down 2,000 like george w. bush. that that's the standard he set. he's a failure, the family income has gone down $4,000 in 3 1/2 years under obama compared to $2,000 under george w. in eight years. >> because of that family income, that's not a made up number, that's a government number. i think both of these guys should be looking for permanent...
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bill clinton was impeached for lies. where is the accountability in this administration? own up to the fact we are at war with an evil force that will never be satisfied until we are all dead. this is not about political offices or expanded geopolitical borders. this is about the survival of our civilization. if this administration won't lead in the battle, then step aside and let someone do it who won't lie to us and endanger our children. [ applause ] on friday the director of national intelligence issued a statement. joining me is katherine hair aj. why this document on friday afternoon? >> you know when you've got bad news the place you put it, that is when we had with the statement. this is a person who is top intelligence officer in the united states government. i have the statement right here. what i believe it does it attempts to give the administration some cover for their initial comments and then concludes what we saw in libya wasn't terrorism. there is a problem here. when you read the statement is what you see is the administration assessments of libya went w
bill clinton was impeached for lies. where is the accountability in this administration? own up to the fact we are at war with an evil force that will never be satisfied until we are all dead. this is not about political offices or expanded geopolitical borders. this is about the survival of our civilization. if this administration won't lead in the battle, then step aside and let someone do it who won't lie to us and endanger our children. [ applause ] on friday the director of national...
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you could also even go right back to the democratic national convention with former president bill clinton, the way he explained the economy and president obama's case for how he's handling the economy really seems to have had an impact. so i think those are some factors that are really playing into this lead. >> also starting out, ohio does have a lower unemployment rate than the national average. you have to factor that in as well. we know both candidates were campaigning there pretty hard in the buckeye state. let's take a listen to some of what happened. here it is. >> i have spent a lot of time in ohio, and i don't -- i don't meet a lot of victims. i see a lot of hard working ohioans. >> i believe in america and i believe in you. i believe you're going to help me win ohio, i'll tell you that. all right. >> so the president's showing up there a lot, but he also has the better ground game in ohio, right? >> right. well, i mean, he's been in ohio for five years and, you know, i mean, he had a very strong ground game here in '08 and it never really went away. so, i mean, this is something
you could also even go right back to the democratic national convention with former president bill clinton, the way he explained the economy and president obama's case for how he's handling the economy really seems to have had an impact. so i think those are some factors that are really playing into this lead. >> also starting out, ohio does have a lower unemployment rate than the national average. you have to factor that in as well. we know both candidates were campaigning there pretty...
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when bill clinton says something, people start to pay attention. he has weighed in on this and said something i want you to unpack. he has argued that the republicans what the electorate in 2012 to look like the 2010 electorate and not like the 2008 electorate. explain what he meant by thtat. >> if you look at the 2008 electorate, it was a the per se electric, a denver electorate. and it signaled a democrat change in the country and what the electorate will look like going forward in 2016 and beyond. that is why i called the coalition of the ascendant. if you look at 2010, it was an electorate that was older and more conservative. that is why republicans did so well in 2010 and not so well in 2008. clinton said this is not rocket science, that what republicans want to do is they want to make the 2012 electorate look more like the 2010 electorate and the 2008 electorate. and clinton said he had never seen in his lifetime an effort to restrict the franchise that he has seen today. clinton grew up in arkansas. he knows what this kind of politics is ab
when bill clinton says something, people start to pay attention. he has weighed in on this and said something i want you to unpack. he has argued that the republicans what the electorate in 2012 to look like the 2010 electorate and not like the 2008 electorate. explain what he meant by thtat. >> if you look at the 2008 electorate, it was a the per se electric, a denver electorate. and it signaled a democrat change in the country and what the electorate will look like going forward in 2016...
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in 1992, the incumbent president was down nine points in mid-september, tied with bill clinton by the end of october, though clinton eventually won. a former clinton pollster is questioning the assumptions being made in today's polls. >> these polls are assuming that you have the same high level of african american, latino, and young people vote in 2012 that you had in 2008. >> obama campaign senior advisor david axelrod told fox, "public polls are widely variant in their sampling and methodology so it's hard to case when they all point in one direction they're all wrong, but we are planning for a close race as we always have." another democratic strategist offered this assessment -- >> the race isn't over. look, this thing can move back and forth three or four times between now and november 6th. if i'm romney, you try to create that momentum. he saw a sign to do it. >> of the eight presidential races in the past 10 where the leads were cut or flipped by the opponent, the average of the comebacks was roughly 5%. in some cases it was a debate that moved the needle. harris? >> mike, tha
in 1992, the incumbent president was down nine points in mid-september, tied with bill clinton by the end of october, though clinton eventually won. a former clinton pollster is questioning the assumptions being made in today's polls. >> these polls are assuming that you have the same high level of african american, latino, and young people vote in 2012 that you had in 2008. >> obama campaign senior advisor david axelrod told fox, "public polls are widely variant in their...
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bill clinton used it 11 times stirred he spoke to two hours long. he is it 11 times it. that is where the bulk of it came. i ask this question. if the democrats to not have the spine or the backbone to raise the issue publicly, to talk about the issue publicly, what makes us think if they get a second term in the white house or a chance to take back the house or the senate that the issue of poverty, of raising the minimum wage to living wage, if about it, how are we going to get anything done about it? >> because we are. to have to think very hard about a third party in 2016 if the democrats do not come around. it is the true situation you are depicting that both parties, right of center paries, just the republicans are so far extreme to the right, it is grotesque in their greed and their lack of any concern at all. we are going to have a $7 billion federal election cycle this time. that is a lot of money being raised and spent on the campaign. that is a lot of rich people talking in both parties. the democrats still have some heart in there but they still swing to a far
bill clinton used it 11 times stirred he spoke to two hours long. he is it 11 times it. that is where the bulk of it came. i ask this question. if the democrats to not have the spine or the backbone to raise the issue publicly, to talk about the issue publicly, what makes us think if they get a second term in the white house or a chance to take back the house or the senate that the issue of poverty, of raising the minimum wage to living wage, if about it, how are we going to get anything done...
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. >> i voted for bill clinton twice. i voted for clinton. >> i voted for clinton. >> al gore. >> i voted for al gore. >> al gore. >> i voted for barack obama. >> i voted for barack obama. >> barack obama in 2008. >> i had huge hopes. but you know what, i got burned in 2008. >> the trillions and trillions of dollars of deficits. >> this time. >> this year. >> i've changed. >> i'm changing my vote. >> i changed my mind. >> to mitt romney and paul ryan. >> to romney and ryan. >> to mitt romney and paul ryan. they have plans and ideas that i believe will work. >> greta: joining us our political panel, rick klein, michael crawley, and justin sink. rick? >> find me a voter for voted for mccain four years ago and now says obama. it's a small segment of the population. this is the kind of message. it's an invitation to the former obama voters, the one-time obama voters who may be supporting him right now, on the fence right now, to say join us on the other side, you don't have to hate the guy, that he's the wrong direction for t
. >> i voted for bill clinton twice. i voted for clinton. >> i voted for clinton. >> al gore. >> i voted for al gore. >> al gore. >> i voted for barack obama. >> i voted for barack obama. >> barack obama in 2008. >> i had huge hopes. but you know what, i got burned in 2008. >> the trillions and trillions of dollars of deficits. >> this time. >> this year. >> i've changed. >> i'm changing my vote. >> i...
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retched nixon lied because of coverups and bill clinton i am protested because of lies and coverups, where is the accountability in this administration, own up to the fact that we are at war with an evil force never be molified or satisfied until we're all dead. this is not about political offices or expanded geopolitical orders, this is about the survival of our civilization, if this administration can't or won't lead in the battle then step aside and let someone do it who won't lie to us and endanger our children. [applause] well, on friday, the office of the director of national intelligence issued a statement, attempting to put the matter to rest, going to washington is the chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge. why this document dump on a friday afternoon? >> well, you know, governor, as well as everyone else when you've got bad news, the place you put it is late on friday, what we had with the statement from director of national intelligence, a person who is a top intelligence officer in the united states government and i have the statement right here. and what i
retched nixon lied because of coverups and bill clinton i am protested because of lies and coverups, where is the accountability in this administration, own up to the fact that we are at war with an evil force never be molified or satisfied until we're all dead. this is not about political offices or expanded geopolitical orders, this is about the survival of our civilization, if this administration can't or won't lead in the battle then step aside and let someone do it who won't lie to us and...
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i'm no debate pro, but you know. >> that's the place where barack obama, bill clinton, you ask them a question like that, they'll go deep into the math on you. they will rattle off numbers and until you start to pass out. >> you want to stab yourself in the neck. >> they will numb you with numbers and, you know, most of them true, most of them right, all of them framed to their benefit, but they've got the command of the specifics to back up what they're saying. >> i think paul ryan has the command. he just knows that it will probably increase taxes for people earning between $100,000 and $200,000 a year. >> the answer is like with releasie ining romney's tax ret the answer is one they don't want to give. they bet the farm on not giving the answer. the plan was not to have a plan, was to run against barack obama's plan, and just keep pointing the finger at him and not have any specifics to offer of your own so you could never be attacked. >> like a bad jewel heist movie when everybody gathers in the corner in the back of the van and the plan is to have no plan. and then someone is lik
i'm no debate pro, but you know. >> that's the place where barack obama, bill clinton, you ask them a question like that, they'll go deep into the math on you. they will rattle off numbers and until you start to pass out. >> you want to stab yourself in the neck. >> they will numb you with numbers and, you know, most of them true, most of them right, all of them framed to their benefit, but they've got the command of the specifics to back up what they're saying. >> i...
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bush took it every day and i believe that bill clinton took it every day. this president thinks he's smarter than those guys and he doesn't have to engage in the discussion. that's the most important half hour of the day for a president who has to protect the security of the united states. >> gretchen: it's interesting because when you ask people what is the most important role of the president of the united states, that's usually the answer that's given by historians, to protect this nation. so in that essence, john sununu probably not going to get much criticism for that statement, but should he go to these things in person? turns out now he is going to all the intel briefings since it came to light that he wasn't. >> brian: i like -- yesterday the republicans are saying he's not being direct in saying the difference between the two. he said flat out. it was a terrorist attack. al-qaeda assassinated our diplomat. that's an act of terror. the white house does not want to admit it and it is trouble to go a group of senators who got together and not only wan
bush took it every day and i believe that bill clinton took it every day. this president thinks he's smarter than those guys and he doesn't have to engage in the discussion. that's the most important half hour of the day for a president who has to protect the security of the united states. >> gretchen: it's interesting because when you ask people what is the most important role of the president of the united states, that's usually the answer that's given by historians, to protect this...
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they believe that bill clinton standing up for barack obama, offering a testimonial on behalf of the president, it has made people feel better about this. ashley: always looking for the big one. you have to come up with your own line. some people are already writing him off the record i don't know if it is a valid the policy specifics. look, the reality is that the american public is not going to want to mitt romney suddenly. the campaign has spent months if not years trying to do that. now is the time to set up broad picture and say that this is not the best we can do. and to be bold. mitt romney back from his tax-cut proposal, you can't go to the american public with that. the american public wants a choice. every time they have been bold, whether with government reformer that 20% across-the-board income tax cuts, that is when he has a bump in the polls. we will see if that is how it goes when it comes to the debate. ashley: what does he have to do in his first debate? you're right, he's not exactly a warm and cuddly candidate, but he is his own worst enemy. what does he need to do
they believe that bill clinton standing up for barack obama, offering a testimonial on behalf of the president, it has made people feel better about this. ashley: always looking for the big one. you have to come up with your own line. some people are already writing him off the record i don't know if it is a valid the policy specifics. look, the reality is that the american public is not going to want to mitt romney suddenly. the campaign has spent months if not years trying to do that. now is...
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bush and bill clinton. the second debate between clinton and bob dole in 1996 with 36.3 million viewers. as president obama and mitt romney went head-to-head explaining their tax plans, there was one name that came up in both of their answers. >> governor romney says the top 3% are the job creators burdened. under gov romney's definitions, there are a bunch of millionaires and bill nars. donald trump is a small business, i know he doesn't like to think he's small anything but that's how you define small business. >> the reality is, it's not just donald trump you are taxing. it's all the businesses that employ one quarter of workers in america, the small businesses taxed as individuals. >> you are surprised to know mr. trump reacted on twitter. he said as a big job creator, i was greatly honored to have been mentioned twice during the debate. donald trump. >>> let's turn to another political debate. jon stewart v. bill o riley. he called in stephven colbert. he was brought in by two shirtless handlers to get
bush and bill clinton. the second debate between clinton and bob dole in 1996 with 36.3 million viewers. as president obama and mitt romney went head-to-head explaining their tax plans, there was one name that came up in both of their answers. >> governor romney says the top 3% are the job creators burdened. under gov romney's definitions, there are a bunch of millionaires and bill nars. donald trump is a small business, i know he doesn't like to think he's small anything but that's how...
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bill clinton tried the approach i am talking about. we created 23 million new jobs, but from deficit to surplus, and businesses did well. in some ways we have some data on which approach is more likely to create jobs and opportunity for americans. i believe that the economy works best when middle-class families are getting tax breaks and those of us who have done well because of this magnificent country we live in that we can afford to do more to make sure we are not blowing up the deficit. >> he gets the first word of that segment. let me make this comment. let me repeat what i said. i am not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. my plan is not to put in place any tax cut that will add to the deficit. that is not my plan. let's look at history. my plan is not like anything that has been tried before. my plan is to bring down rates and credit so the revenue stays in but we bring down rates to get more people working. my priority is putting people back to work in america. they are suffering. look at the evidence of the last four years. it
bill clinton tried the approach i am talking about. we created 23 million new jobs, but from deficit to surplus, and businesses did well. in some ways we have some data on which approach is more likely to create jobs and opportunity for americans. i believe that the economy works best when middle-class families are getting tax breaks and those of us who have done well because of this magnificent country we live in that we can afford to do more to make sure we are not blowing up the deficit....
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. >> if a president of either party, i don't care whether it was jimmy carter or bill clinton or george bush or ronald reagan or george h.w. bush had had a terrorist incident and gotten on an airplane after saying something and flown off to a fund raisener las vegas, they would have been crucified. it would have been, it should have been barack -- equivalent for barack obama of george bush's flying over katrina moment. >> but nothing was said at all. and nothing will be said. >> with us now is mr. caddell. so you think this is an organized press suppression of this story? >> well, organized -- whether it's organized is a straight conspiracy, everyone is in on it and doing it and it's a purposeful conscious effort to suppress news that might help obama. we have gone down a slippery slope here. look, bill, we have had liberal bias or bias in the press for a long time. for many years. but it's gotten worse starting in 2008. now we have a press that actively engages in the re-election. putting out a narrative that romney is a loser, you know running polls, they are using like telling n.i.v.
. >> if a president of either party, i don't care whether it was jimmy carter or bill clinton or george bush or ronald reagan or george h.w. bush had had a terrorist incident and gotten on an airplane after saying something and flown off to a fund raisener las vegas, they would have been crucified. it would have been, it should have been barack -- equivalent for barack obama of george bush's flying over katrina moment. >> but nothing was said at all. and nothing will be said....
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if there's one thing we've learned in this election season, by the way, it is that a few words from bill clinton can do a man a lot of good. [ laughter ] >> sort of a double-edged sword there, but nonetheless, a fun laugh line. romney went on to lay out his plan on how he would change how this country gives foreign aid. he calls it a prosperity pact and it would attach more strings to the $50 billion america gives other countries every single year. but does it add up? dan senor is one of the policy advisers and i spoke with him a short while ago. so politico called this, and you were involved with this speech and policy, one of romney's best-prepared and best-delivered speeches of the campaign. that was a win for you. >> yeah, a good day. he was talking about big ideas. he was talking about complete modernization of our foreign assistance programs, talking about the fact that while the international community gives about $120 billion a year to developing world in assistance and development assistance, the truth is, it's exponentially larger in terms much funds that trade and foreign dire
if there's one thing we've learned in this election season, by the way, it is that a few words from bill clinton can do a man a lot of good. [ laughter ] >> sort of a double-edged sword there, but nonetheless, a fun laugh line. romney went on to lay out his plan on how he would change how this country gives foreign aid. he calls it a prosperity pact and it would attach more strings to the $50 billion america gives other countries every single year. but does it add up? dan senor is one of...
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. >>> and bill clinton is talking about being president again. just not here. stay with us. >> i don'tet it, folks. how could romney be behind? e releasing bootlegs of his speeches. questions? anyone have occasional constipation, diarrh.agaloating? one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues th three strains of good bacteria. approved! [ phillips' lady ] live the regular life. phillips'. powerful trading tools for all. we put strategies, chains and positions t indathtipresby charles sc. >>we've seen a lot of former president bill clinton these last few months and sometimes it seems like he's missing his old job. it seems as he'starting to ildun president of ireland because of my irish heritage and because i was born in arkansas, which is part of the louisiana purchase, any person anywhe in the world that was born in a place that ve france for six months ch and speak french, you can run for president there. >> ooh-la-la, another run for presidency? but , the frenchules h changed and you need to live there for fiv
. >>> and bill clinton is talking about being president again. just not here. stay with us. >> i don'tet it, folks. how could romney be behind? e releasing bootlegs of his speeches. questions? anyone have occasional constipation, diarrh.agaloating? one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues th three strains of good bacteria. approved! [ phillips' lady ] live the regular life. phillips'. powerful trading tools for all. we put...
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is that bill clinton's work? >> reporter: i was just going to say, is it bill clinton's? you could credit him. i think he deserves some credit in the argument he laid out at the convention. but clearly you've moved something. this isn't just democrats deciding, hey, i'm with obama and now i feel better about the country. you're seeing moves with independent voters on that question. people that are going to end up voting for romney, who believe the economy is in recovery. >> the reason for the -- the reason -- >> reporter: the whole thing is coming together for obama. he's in re-elect territory. >> guys, the numbers don't back that up. our second quarter growth number was 1.3, wasn't it? i mean, how do you get -- why are they saying it's better? >> but chris, the people who study this kind of thing and try to correlate economic numbers with election results will tell you that the numbers were good enough in the second and third quarter in terms of growth of real personal income in the country to correlate to a victory for incumbent president. >> wow. >> no, the numbers hav
is that bill clinton's work? >> reporter: i was just going to say, is it bill clinton's? you could credit him. i think he deserves some credit in the argument he laid out at the convention. but clearly you've moved something. this isn't just democrats deciding, hey, i'm with obama and now i feel better about the country. you're seeing moves with independent voters on that question. people that are going to end up voting for romney, who believe the economy is in recovery. >> the...
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millions of us protested against both the war and the draft bill clinton did everything he could to avoid the draft without the benefit that mitt romney enjoyed. but he didn't want anyone to go to that war. he didn't force others to go to vietnam to die in his place. like mitt romney was. young american men had terrible choices to make in those days. protest the war or serve in the war. protest the draft or avoid the draft or flee the country or go to prison in defiance of the draft. going to war was not the only brave choice then. morally centered men made each one of those choices. the amorality of mitt romney's choice was something that i had never heard of. i disnot know that there was a single american man who publicly protested in favor of the war and protested in favor of the draft and then evaded that draft himself and then sat i'dly by, played in the sand of french beaches while expecting other young american men his age to go to vietnam in his place. mitt romney thinks of people taking veteran's benefits as deped dedapts on government. thinks of them as the takers. we could have
millions of us protested against both the war and the draft bill clinton did everything he could to avoid the draft without the benefit that mitt romney enjoyed. but he didn't want anyone to go to that war. he didn't force others to go to vietnam to die in his place. like mitt romney was. young american men had terrible choices to make in those days. protest the war or serve in the war. protest the draft or avoid the draft or flee the country or go to prison in defiance of the draft. going to...